On The Anger Over The DHS Security Report {UpDated}

Promoted. Originally posted 2009-04-18 10:15:15 -0500. -- GH

Yesterday I put up a post you can find here {this link takes you to my site} on the recent DHS report that came out and many were extremely angry about as to labeling OIF and OEF Veterans as possible recruits to fanatical rightwing hate groups. The spin being it was labeling All Returning Vets as a possible problem, it didn't, but a few Veterans Groups and The talking heads and Congressional members of the Republican party wanted the spin to come out as that.

Today a friend posted a link to editorial from a Vietnam Vet, at my facebook page, which hits on some of the winger responses himself, and I responded about a Real Incident of Actual Negative Labeling of Many Veterans, these with Honorable Discharges. As you all know less than already gives the negative in the civilian world.

There was a huge stink with us returning Vietnam Veterans when this was found out and there was a re-issue of new DD214's to any who requested or even found out about this.

What was done, well apparently there were embedded numbers in the DD214's, Spin Codes, numbers that were apparently based on what one might be perceived as by the military once back in civilian life. Some might have led to a positive but others apparently were to show a possibility of a trouble making, or anti-social, etc. etc. etc. etc..

These could supposedly be used by businesses, corporation, colleges, you get the picture, without the Vets knowledge that these numbers even existed.

Did a search to see if I could find some info for her to show what I was talking about, well apparently it's reared it's head again, I quickly was given this:
 

Injustice Exposed: The Secret Code on Veteran's DD214

Edwin H. Crosby III Vietnam Vet. explains the secret code on the 26,000,000 veteran's DD214 forms, and how it is used against the Veterans. Special Veteran's Forum April, 2007 Edwin H. Crosby III gave permission to upload this video.This is the site on more information The Secret Code on Veteran's DD214

 

The link is an hour and a half Video Discussion with the Vietnam Vet,

who took this to the courts

, about just this, the Embedded Code on DD214's.

 

And here I thought this was All Cleared Up years ago, apparently not!!

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Military Separation Codes — Alphabetical Codes

 

Related Resources

• Numeric SPN Codes

• Alphabetic SPN Codes

• Army RE Codes

• Air Force RE Codes

• Navy/Marine/Coast Guard RE Codes

 

Hidden on practically every veteran’s DD-214 discharge papers are secret code letters and numbers called Separation Program Numbers (SPN numbers) that might make obtaining veterans benefits difficult if not impossible. Here are these secret alphabetic codes that may make a difference in your future.

 

These codes are contained in your military records and may be annotated on various military separation documents. These codes are subject to change, and the Department of Defense will no longer allow the military services to release the meanings of these codes to the general public. The below definitions were obtained before this prohibition went into effect.>>>>>For the List of Codes Click Here

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The idea of tagging veterans without their knowledge with an array of so-called negatives from bed-wetting (enuresis) to homosexuality, to negative attitudes seems to me to be unacceptable. First is the inabiltiy of vets to dispute the tags; but more important is the existence of such tags. I can easily imagine the possibility that progressive bloggers for example are also tagged and the tag is appeneded to their social security number.

But I do not understand the purpose of the links to Timothy McVeigh that suggest FBI suppression of important information about Atta, a motel where he tried to get a room that also had connections to McVeigh and possibly to the Oklahoma bombing.

The first video link you provide didn't work. Access to more information on Crosby's case seemed to depend upon access to a legal site. The video link lacked a play button and a download would have taken 30 minutes.

Since the issue you raise is so important perhaps you could add some more explanation to the links you provided to make the connections clearer.

carol

Haven't a clue to what you're looking for as an answer. The video link, only one, works, I just clicked it. I didn't post a link to McVeigh, if on one of the sites it would possibly blend in with the other links for explanation.

As to Vets being coded I tried to make that clear, We Didn't Know, and there apparently are still codes being used. It's government, they code civilians without knowledge. Everything in is in code form.

I never worried about it, one because I didn't give a crap, two in what I do for a living, in the construction industry, it didn't matter, three I don't get any government bennies. But I thought we had it cleared up years ago, and they were supposedly supposed to change their coding an not release the meanings to civilian employers, schools, etc.

"The wise man points to the stars and the fool sees only the finger - and discusses it 24/7 on cable."

I found this in a pending buzz flash story. It is really another instance of police state stuff. AU.S. Sergeant in Wiesbaden is working for peace. Now she’s being investigated. I buzzed it. Here's the Buzzflash blurb on it.

A Duty to Resist

U.S. Army regulations protect free speech of soldiers and allow membership in non-partisan, nonprofit organizations like IVAW, but Coppa has been subject to harassment. On the day she was invited to join the IVAW Board, the U.S. Army Europe (USAREUR) began "investigating" her. She has not yet been formally charged. But her commanders cite "dereliction of duty," "making disloyal statements," and "criticizing the war aims of the United States."

carol