Lieberman's numbers in Connecticut tank - Public Option Still Popular

From Scarce at MLN, Joe Lieberman's numbers across the board are pitiful after his healthcare asshattery.

Elephant in the room: Joe Lieberman is an assholeThat's the word from PPP's poll they've done this week in Connecticut.

Want to know how far Joe Lieberman has fallen in the
wake of the health care vote last month? Barack Obama's approval rating
with Connecticut Republicans is higher than Lieberman's with the
state's Democrats.

81% of Democrats now disapprove of Lieberman's job performance with
only 14% approving, and he's not real popular with Republicans who
disapprove of him by a 48/39 margin or with independents who do so by a
61/32 spread either. It all adds up to a 25% approval rating with 67%
of his constituents giving him bad marks.

Lieberman managed to antagonize both sides with his actions
during the health care debate. Among voters who support the health care
bill 87% disapprove of how Lieberman handled it with only 10%
supporting it. But by voting for the final product after getting it
watered down he also managed to earn the unhappiness of constituents
opposed to the bill, 52% of whom say they disapprove of what Lieberman
did to 33% in support.

Overall just 19% of voters in the state say they like what Lieberman did on the issue with 68% opposed.

Full PDF of the poll is here. It is becoming pretty clear that the Democrats will have to adopt the more popular Nancy Pelosi's House version of healthcare reform with a Public Option as opposed to the Joe Lieberman's Senate dungpile if they want to keep any voters, not just the left or their base, interested in their brand.

It's important to remember that all four leaders are unpopular. Pelosi, with a 42%-49% approval rating, only looks good by comparison. Her counterpart, Mr. Boehner, remains roughly as popular as a case of chlamydia (18%-62%). McConnell (18%-64%) is even worse off. And less than a third of respondents (32%) approve of the job Harry Reid is doing.

Yet, the trend lines tell a story. The Republicans have seen only two upticks all year, and they were during the August recess teabagging insanity and during the debate over the Senate Health Care bill (the House passed their version on Nov. 7th) when the Republicans were using every obstructive trick in the book. Clearly, the Republicans have found their only rewards when they've been maximally oppositional.

On the Democratic side, I'm guessing that Pelosi has benefitted from her ability to pass legislation while the country watched Harry Reid struggle to get anything done in the Senate. Yet, when Reid finally cobbled together the 60 votes he needed to pass the Senate's version of health care reform, his numbers started to trend back up.

Reid's numbers may have trended up, but the reality is that they probably only went up because finally finishing his job meant high expectations of what would result AFTER they added the Public Option back in during conference.

The Public Option is much more popular than all of the key leadership and most of the politicians out there.

Just under 60 percent of those surveyed said they would like a public option as part of any final healthcare reform legislation, which Republicans and a few Democrats oppose.

Here are some of the results of the telephone survey of 2,999
households called from November 9-17 as part of the Thomson Reuters
PULSE Healthcare Survey:

  • Believe in public option: 59.9 percent yes, 40.1 percent no. 

  • 86 percent of Democrats support the public option versus 57 percent of Independents and 33 percent of Republicans. 

  • Quality of healthcare will be better 12 months from now: 35
    percent strongly disagree. 11.6 percent strongly agree. 29.9 percent
    put themselves in the middle.

  • Believe the amount of money spent on healthcare will be less 12 months from now: 52 percent strongly disagree, 13 percent strongly agree.

And, YES! The Public Option is more popular than Obama if you look at these numbers released from yesterday's polling of Connecticut:

Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of Barack

Obama's job performance?

Approve .......................................................... 54%

Disapprove...................................................... 38%

Not Sure.......................................................... 8%

Q2 Do you support or oppose President Obama's

health care plan, or do you not have an

opinion?

Support ........................................................... 47%

Oppose ........................................................... 43%

No Opinion...................................................... 10%

The Democratic Party is in for a rude awakening in the next couple of elections unless they turn it around NOW. Because right now? The base will turn on you, while indies that went your way in the last couple of elections will ignore you, and even the few remaining "normal" conservatives that you might have a chance of pulling out of the boiling pot of GOP/Teabagrrrrs whackjobbery will have nowhere to go, either.

Everyone gets that the Senate version, excepting for some parts of it like the Sanders' legislation, is a huge corporate giveaway without a public option available to everyone that wants it. Everyone, left, right and center.

The people that might stick with you want a public option now. And you, President Obama, need you to stand up for what you campaigned on. You can deliver or risk losing all that you and the Dems have gained in the last few years.

 

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I know I am giving a harsh assessment of this sitch, but it is more realistic than just passing anything and crossing your fingers hoping people won't notice. And I guarantee this: If you stick with the Senate version and it is so full of the holes that it has? As soon as it passes the media will begin to pick it apart to the GOP's advantage.

Same thing they do every time. Thankfully at least one of the major media sources is telling you the truth about this on TV. KO on Countdown:

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Kos says they will be polling Lieberman match-up hypotheticals shortly... A little far out, though. lol Maybe a bit futile, too.