Open Thread; Elections

Udate 10 33 pm. Looks like a reversal in New York City with 3/4 of the votes now counted it looks like the Dem Bill Thompson is winning..Update 6:20 am. Moderate Democrat Bill Owens takes upsate NY conservative seat. Bloomberg declared winner in NYC mayor race, but by a slim majority. In California Democratic Lt. Gov. John Garamendim a strong supporter of public option trounced his Republican opponent and three minor-party candidates.

As of 10 pm Republicans won New Jersey and Virginia, Bloomberg remains mayor of NYC. I hope the Dems take this as a wakeup call. I really was conflicted about whether to vote. I finally did vote the Democratic ticket but ... but ... but. I hope our Pres. wakes up to reality.

I read an interesting commentary yesterday, I think it was by Dean Baker. Anyway what it said is something that I have been thinking. Obama may have used Time for Change as a slogan but his program during the campaign was extremely "middle-of-the-road."  I hate to use the word centrist these days , the damned centrists  are really such scummy Republicans in drag.

I was supporting Edwards in the beginning because I didn't see any substance in Obama's program (although I was impressed by his memoir, Dreams of My Father. We;those days are over and Edwards turned out to be contemptible.

I guess my mantra remains anything but Bush and his Republican cohorts.

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New York 23rd Congressional (39.3% reporting) Owens (D)49.71% Scozzafava (R) 5.11% Hoffman (C) 45.18%

Wonder why?

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The change affects the approximately 3,500 troops of the 10th Mountain Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team.

Not sayin but... Owens now leads in Jefferson, St. Lawrence, Franklin, Clinton and Essex counties. Hoffman leads in Oswego, Oneida and Madison counties.

FT. Drum is in Jefferson county. Wonder why the Dem is beating a teabagrrrr there?

Things, all around, aren't going well there for the teabagrrrr candidate anywhere:

The mood is getting darker at NY-23 Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman’s election party. Results from Jefferson County–Republican territory that John McCain carried–show Owens in the lead. And the Syracuse suburbs–Madison, Oswego, and Oneida County–are not showing the blowouts that early polling suggested. The first results from Oswego show Hoffman at 2800, Owens at 2000, and Scozzafava at 324. The final Siena poll had Hoffman leading Democrat BIll Owens 51-28 in this region.

of the English language, it seems an appropriate innovation: teabagrrrr :-)

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government in a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." - Thomas Jefferson

GRRRL Power. <<< That one doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But Teabagrrrr? Fits the definition of what they have become.

Historically this has been a solidly conservative Republican district. Bloomberg seems to me to be a pretty moderate guy -- better than someone like say Lieberman or Nelson.

Deeds in VA was a terrible candidate. He did everything but declare himself a Republican and completely distanced himself from Obama. He even went so far as to say that he would consider supporting a VA opt out of the public option. When Terry McAuliffe entered the VA Democratic primary he split the progressive vote and both he and his progressive opponent Jim Moran were defeated, leaving the field for Deeds.


No On 1 in Maine lost and legalized discrimination won.

is the same guy as MBNA Moran who sponsored the bankers' 'bankruptcy reform' bill in 2001-ish?

Also (or not?) involved in the bankers' 'credit card reform' bill of roughly the same era?

Thanks in advance, I got distracted from this thread yesterday while trying to figure that one out.

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government in a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." - Thomas Jefferson

The Moran who ran for Governor has been involved in Virginia State politics, his BROTHER is the Moran you are thinking of. He is a congressman representing Fairfax (or parts there of). I know he represents Falls Church 'cause Nick thinks highly of him. We alas have Congressman Wolf. I am not sure which of the two is Jim and I gotta do some paid work right now so am not going to google it.