Ann Coulter Spews Sewage

Promoted. Originally posted 2008-03-08 18:52:06 -0500.

It would seem the conservative crowd is less than pleased with the candidates on offer in the upcoming presidential election. We need to pay more attention to what the other party is saying and less time eating our own.

As Americans first, and progessives second, it would behoove us to listen to what the noise machine is gearing up for. In Coulter's Feb. 14th column "There's a Democrat Behind Door No. 1, 2 and 3 Coulter has this to say:

Hillary is, shockingly enough, the most conservative candidate among the top three presidential candidates.

Say what?! But then again, John McCain is not a crowd-pleaser ... at least his candidacy does not please the conservative crowd (Loyal Bushies). Coulter's Feb. 6th column tells us how McCain has failed the conservative "litmus test":

  • He excoriated Samuel Alito as too "conservative."
  • He promoted amnesty for 20 million illegal immigrants.
  • He abridged citizens' free speech (in favor of the media) with McCain-Feingold.
  • He hysterically opposes waterboarding terrorists and wants to shut down Guantanamo.
  • He denounced the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
  • He opposes ANWR and supports the global warming cult, even posturing with fellow mountebank Arnold Schwarzenegger in front of solar panels.

The rumblings in conservative circles [gutter dive in the comments] seem to indicate that no matter which of the three [McCain, Obama, Clinton] win the White House, the conservatives will lose.

Coulter has plenty of venom to spread around and seems to spread it equally among all three contenders. In her March 5th column she advises Hillary to divorce Bill, and advises Obama to concede the nomination.

Now that Hillary has won three primaries in a row, it's time for Obama to do the classy thing and withdraw from the race. (Obama won Vermont, but that was earlier in the day. Exit polls indicate he took the black vote. Literally. There was just the one.)

The opinions and opinion makers on the right bear watching. November isn't that far off ...


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Holey Toledo!

From Paul Kramer New Yorker article, The Water Cure last week:

This time, [William Howard] Taft [at that time a Republican Judge from Ohio] conceded:

cruelties have been inflicted; that people have been shot when they ought not to have been; that there have been in individual instances of water cure, that torture which I believe involves pouring water down the throat so that the man swells and gets the impression that he is going to be suffocated and then tells what he knows, which was a frequent treatment under the Spaniards, I am told—all these things are true.

and more:

Furthermore, Glenn had described the water cure as “the habitual method of obtaining information from individual insurgents”—in other words, as “a method of conducting operations.” But the operational use of torture, Davis stressed, was strictly forbidden. Regarding a subsequent water-cure court-martial, he wrote, “No modern state, which is a party to international law, can sanction, either expressly or by a silence which imports consent, a resort to torture with a view to obtain confessions, as an incident to its military operations.” Otherwise, he inquired, “where is the line to be drawn?” And he rehearsed an unsettling, judicial calibration of pain:

The whole article is intriguing reading, not only because it underscores the ridiculousness of some of the arguments surrounding the discussion, but also as proof that nothing is ever firmly put to bed. The very argument that is going on today between the opposing views of water torture a "frat boy trick" or a"serious and deadly torture" was settled in the US Courts back in the early 1900s.

Just goes to show ya how warped the right really is.

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Worth reading this: MCITT History, specifically the document by Major Moran who figured prominently in Stephen Budiansky's Truth Extraction (theAtlantic, June '05). The salient quote:

Marine Major Sherwood F. Moran, the report's author, noted that despite the complexities and difficulties of dealing with an enemy from such a hostile and alien culture, some American interrogators consistently managed to extract useful information from prisoners. The successful interrogators all had one thing in common in the way they approached their subjects. They were nice to them.

Better to focus on what the pros in the field actually practice. "Waterboarding" is a sideshow.

Just today, Bush vetos the bill ... (hat tip to sacredsage over on Buzzflash)
Bush Explains Veto Of Waterboarding Bill

WASHINGTON -- Democrats and human rights advocates criticized President Bush's veto Saturday of a bill that would have banned the CIA from using simulated drowning and other coercive interrogation methods to gain information from suspected terrorists.